6g16 reverb tank driver

It was discontinued in 1966 and was replaced by a solidstate model, the fr. I was playing around with the reverb send and return cables with the amp on. Built the stage center as a stand alone unit with the spring reverb tank inside it was a pedal that is about 35 cm long by 15 cm high and. The radial tank driver is a 500 series balancing interface to allow the user to connect the spring reverb from their guitar amplifier to line level studio gear. I replaced the reverb tranny, reverb tank, reverb cables, and reverb driver tube and nothing changed. The fender reverb unit 6g15 was a vacuum tube, spring reverbequipped effects unit made by fender. Dont just focus on the resistors youre calling out. A transformerless constantcurrent reverb driver introduction. Fender probably felt the reverb wasnt intenseenough in the brown vibroverb.

Monoprice 15w mod reverb tank install squiertalk forum. Input impedance 8 ohms, output impedance 2250 ohms, long decay 2. Unlike the common nylon bobbin wound reverb drivers available on the market today, this is a reasonably priced, vintage constructed, paper layer wound reverb driver. The reverb driver tube is a 12at7 that uses both of its triodes in parallel to operate as a singleended one stage amp. In my opinion, unless the reverb tank in your amp doesnt work at all, i would not recommend this tank. Your reverb knob is post all reverb gain, not pre to it. This is my secondgeneration solidstate guitar reverb circuit. In fact, the stock short tank sounds better than this long spring tank, and it is the correct tank for the amp. Outputthis is the output jack that is used to send the signal from the reverb unit to the amplifier. It now has more of a fender feel i really like it glad i upgraded. In lieu of going with the 3 spring, i went with this 2 spring long decay. All you need is a chassis, tubes, cabinet and reverb tank you will receive wiring diagrams for the transformers as well as a layout. Primarily used by all fender amplifiers with tube reverb from 19631990. If you can find a reverb tank with a high impedance driver coil, the transformer may be eliminated, the driver coil will require isolation from ground.

Based on the fender 6g16 reverb unit with improvements to the power section for. The driver stage also requires a voltage amplifier to drive the reverb tank driver, meaning you would need at least a single 12ax7 section to drive the 12at7 tank driver. Just finished the build but havent had much success getting signal through the actual reverb tank. Fender 6g15 reverb unit transformer bundle w choke made. Build your own clone reverb kit instructions warranty. This tank doesnt sound as good as the original stock 2spring short tank that came in my amp head.

Unlike the common nylon bobbin wound reverb drivers available on the market today, this is a. The tank driver has been specifically designed by radial to drive spring reverbs of all types to give you the long trailing shimmer effect that has made this effect so popular. Antique radio forums view topic homemade reverb amp. My only complaint is that this tank has female connections for rca.

It allows for enough separation of the reverb tank and power transformer to keep hum pickup to a minimum. Replace the v3 12at7 reverb driver tube with a lower gain 12au7 to give you more usable room on the reverb control. It was the first fender amplifier to incorporate onboard reverb which became. If you would like this kit assembled for you by one of our techs, you can email your request here. Vacuum tube reverb circuits traditionally have used a lowimpedance reverb tank coupled to the driver tube by a small output transformer. This type was the original style selected by leo fender. And to get to them, youll need to desolder and remove the reverb module. Thus, accutronics considers this model a 4spring unit. Presuming you dont already have a bad tube, bad resistor on the pcb, wrong reverb tank in there, etc.

Handwired tube reverb unit 6g15 custom seafoam clone w. If more reverb than your current tank can provide is what you are after then i suggest simply installing an inline fx loop on the return side of the tank and inserting a compressor pedal. Spring reverb tanks explained and compared the reverberation effect. I was a able to find the photofact for the reverb unit that came with my stereo, and i have some questions. Reverb tank main organ rectifier preamp main post amp phase inverter main power amp reverb rectifier reverb power amp reverb driver reverb recovery brushes and cymbals reverb organ level p304 p306. With the tank driver, you can take any balanced line level signal or prerecorded track and play it through your favorite spring reverb. Monoprice 15w mod reverb tank install discussion in amparidifiers started by surf green, dec 31, 2016. However, i wanted to build the 6g15 before making the leap. Need help with the reverb on my vibroverb discussion in amp input normal or bright started by cosmiqphuz, feb 17, 20. Radial tank driver 500series spring reverb interface. Antique electronic supply makes no claims, promises.

It sounds even better in person, much livelier and brighter than my. But that is not the only way to drive a reverb tank using a vacuum tube, and in fact it is not the best way. You would also need another 12ax7 section on the output to amplify the reverb tank output to something actually useable. Ive used electroharmonix, gt sovtek, old stock rca japanese, and mullard reissue. And finally some short demos with the specified 3 spring 8eb2c1b tank, just to give an idea of what it sounds like. Original 1964 blonde fender tube reverb tank unit 6g15. The reverb circuit in fender amps is very different from that in the companys threeknob outboard reverb unit of the early 1960s. It was the first fender amplifier to incorporate on board reverb which became. Nobody told me the tank wires need 90 degree rca phono ends on them. The original piece of electronics that started it all. Avoid mounting the outer channel of the reverb tank directly to the mounting surface by using grommets, rubber standoffs, reverb tank bag and liner or other products designed for mechanical isolation. The best reverb driver tubes telecaster guitar forum.

The output of the reverb tank is sent to the reverb recovery amp, it. Its not the end of the world if you do, but you want to avoid having to. I did have some hum pretty bad, the wire going from the 12at7 to the 6k6gt reverb driver tube was shielded and grounded on 1 end. Radial tank driver 500 series spring reverb interface. When i disconnect the return from tank to recovery stage it makes a loud squeal and the hum gets louder with it unplugged. Radial tank driver 500 series spring reverb interface module. Reverb is one of those effects that simply will not go away.

Oct 04, 20 this unit is the 6g15 circuit with an improved tank mounting technique that completely decouples the reverb tank without the sketchy springmount system of yesteryear and does so in a way that. I plan on possibly adding the super reverb, twin reverb or deluxe reverb to the build list. Spring reverb tanks are used to create a unique reverberation effect in guitar amps and organs. The circuit looks relatively easy to build, however, the photofact does not tell me what reverb tank to use.

Belton reverb tank, 17 long, 2 spring, 4ab3c1b, current production. Unlike the common nylon bobbin wound reverb drivers available on the market today, this is a reasonably priced, vintage constructed, paper layer wound. Applies to shipments to germany with our standard courier service dhl when paid via paypal, credit card or lastschrift. All these components will drift during age and minor differences in component values are noticeable to mans ear. The fender reverb tank went through some cosmetic changes during its initial run, though the eariest feature brown tolex exteriors like many fender amps of this. Using your 63 fender reverb the 63 fender reverb is designed to go between a low level instrument such as a guitar and a high input impedance. Dec, 2015 i did have some hum pretty bad, the wire going from the 12at7 to the 6k6gt reverb driver tube was shielded and grounded on 1 end. The reverb circuitry consists of two tube sections reverb driver v3 and reverb recovery v4 and the physical reverb tank. For the reverb slot, you need a 12at7 there to meet specs. How to build a tubedriven spring reverb module based on classic ampeg and swartstyle circuitry that can be retrofitted to loads of different.

Long 2spring reverb can, especially designed for use in vintage fender amplifiers. Surfy industries effect pedals and diy kits home of the surfybear and surfytrem surfybear diy kit. Even though your tank came in a marshall head, it may have been manufactured by accutronics if not, you may find that yours matches or is very close to the specs of one of theirs. The fender vibroverb was a 40watt combo guitar amplifier originally manufactured in 1963 and 1964. How to build your own spring reverb unit all things. I actually got rid of my pedals since the 6g15 straight into the tweed twin low power amp sounded so amazing. The ampbased version is just as much a real tubedriven spring reverb circuit in that it carries a small ot to drive a portion of the signal through a longspring pan, but instead of the reverb units large 6k6 output tube, 12at7, and 7025 a 12ax7 type it uses just the latter pair, one as driver and one as recovery tube. For some reason, it didnt like the shield grounded, i unsoldered that, then it was dead quiet.

Yes, an affordable interface designed specifically to drive spring reverbs of all types and deliver the long trailing shimmering effect that is only possible with a true spring. Custom made to original specs right here in the home of the blues, sweet home chicagoillinois usa. The 1964 fender reverb unit is a spring reverb driven by a 6k6 tube. Spring reverb tanks explained and compared amplified parts. If you have a copy of an old fender guitar amplifier owners manual not shown in this archive, wed love to have a copy to post here. Unfollow fender reverb unit to stop getting updates on your ebay feed. Tear the guts out of that solid state combo or cruddy head and build this inside.

A pdf would be great, or even a scanned jpeg, gif or tiff that we can convert. If the reverb tank cannot be mounted in the ideal vertical connectors up plane, the tank should be chosen with magnets that have been factory adjusted to be centered in the air gap for that specific mounting plane. After replacing the stock tubes wjjs, my next victim was the cheesy reverb tank. Theres also enough room for the addition of a nice little 6 practice speaker. The radial tank driver lets you send a balance line level signal through a reverb tank. The fidelity is much improved over the earlier design, it is suitable for use as a frontend to a guitar amplifier. Its an interesting idea but it seems like a lot of work. I ordered a mod 8eb3c1b 3 spring short tank to replace the stock unit thanks to michael 7 for the lead. Now im no amp tech and im a shitty solderer, but after a couple of cuervos, im on this like howie bleeping doumble. These are very old and may need to be or may have been serviced in the past. Soldering, clipping, cutting, stripping, or using any of the components in any way voids this guarantee. Fender used a parallelled 12at7 as an output tube for some tanks.

This unit is the 6g15 circuit with an improved tank mounting technique that completely decouples the reverb tank without the sketchy springmount system of. Limited supply of this kit our version of the classic fender 6g15 standalone reverb unit. Radial engineering tank driver spring reverb interface. Revisit reverb tank, 17 long, 2 spring, equivalent to accutronics 4ab3a1b. The radial tank driver is a wonderfully unique 500 series module that allows you to drive a balanced line level signal through the reverb tank in your fender twin amp. The reverberation effect is created when an audio signal created by a transducer is sent through one or more springs, the movement of the springs is then converted back into an audio signal by another transducer at the other end, creating the unique sound. You may want to implement 470 ohm to 1k ohm screen grid resistors to limit screen grid dissipation at these voltages. When it comes to reverb with real depth, then the fender reverb unit is without. Once youve soldered the reverb module in place, you will have locked many of the components. We will also include all the cloth pushback wire you need to do the job.

If you want to fiddle with reverb driver tubes v3, you could try a 12bh7 andor a 12av7 in the reverb driver location. The reverb tank should be isolated from vibrating surfaces as much as possible. Dwell, mixer and tone and includes a 12at7 tube as a preamplifier. It is recommended that the driver be a current or voltage source with an output rising 6. The fender reverb unit 6g15 was a vacuum tube, spring reverb equipped effects unit made by fender. Thats still high for a 6g3, but theyre spot on for a deluxe reverb.

Discussion in amp central station started by morroben, jan 24, 2012. Theres a limiter circuit on the input of the tank because yeah, 12 watts is a bit more than those ittybitty little coils can handle. I havent been able to discern much difference between 12at7s in the reverb driver slot. One of the true original standalone reverb units, the fender reverb tank has been heard on countless classic recordings since the 60s.

The original 6g16 circuit vibroverb was introduced in february 1963. But, i will say this, the reverb driver is not a gain stage so the 12at vs. While there are some excellent dsp digital signal processor based reverb systems that sound very natural, the unique sound of spring reverb tanks is still preferred by a great many guitarists and many electric electronic organ players as well. Standalone reverb unit, based on the fender reverb unit from the 60s. In the 6g16 vibroverb were interested into the pair of 470k. Both have less gain but lower plate resistance than the 12at7.

When i disconnect the send cable from the 12au7 driver there in no change in the noise. Delivery times for other countries and shipping methods can be found on our shipping information page. Spring reverb tanks explained and compared antique. I play with a lot of reverb blues so this completely changed the voice of the amp. The type 4 is 17 long and uses 2 long springs, each of which consists of two springs joined in the middle. The reverb unit was built from scratch using fingerjointed pine for the cabinet, scrap 16 gauge sheet metal for the chassis, and nos tubes and electrical components, all wired pointtopoint. You can also go the other way and decrease the wet signal strength by upping the reverb attenuation resistor value to 680k for 24% attenuation or 1m for 82%, or 1. What does matter is the current and transconductance.